Is Pope Francis a Communist?

No, he espouses neither a Capitalist nor a Marxist view and his origins as a Peronist give much indication as to his beliefs.

What is Peronism? It is one of several “third way” economic models (like Distributism) that can neither be classified as Capitalist or Socialist.  In Peronism, there is a sort of capitalism and corporatism within society that is overseen and regulated by the government as the highest mediator of conflict.  Also integral to it is a great emphasis on nationalism and economic independence.

So, one can think of it as an odd combination of Bonapartism, Mussolini/Franco-style Fascism, Christian Democracy and “social justice”, and limited capitalism.  Unfortunately, Americans for decades have been force-fed that there are only two economic systems, two political parties, and two answers to every question. You are a white-hat or a black-hat.  If you attack the excesses of capitalism, then you must be a socialist.  I hate my country’s public education system…

But does any of this matter as regards the Church?  No, not really.  The pope will do what the pope will do. Some people will unhealthily obsess over him negatively (look at any of Rorate’s posts on “Pope Bergoglio”) while others will obsess over some new “magisterium” (one of the worst words to ever enter the Catholic dictionary) the pope may have “promulgated”.  Like every recent pope that has achieved any level of popularity or infamy (Pius X, Pius XII, Paul VI, and JP II), we will unfortunately not hear the last of him when he dies or retires.  That is the curse of Papolatry.

And life goes on…


10 thoughts on “Is Pope Francis a Communist?

    • Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate them at times (the Irish Redemptorist debacle was one such example). However, they definitely have their quirks and are very entrenched in standard traditionalism (with both its good points and its overly simplistic worldview). If their writers could stop using the “m” word, that would really help.


      • I’ve seen that, and it is good that some have been taking a more critical view of the pre-Pauline modifications. Part of it may have been due to the fact that back in the heyday of free-for-all traditionalism people were reprinting missals from many different years and were passing down any old missals they could find (1948, 1954, 1958, 1963, 1961… you name it). I think that when Latin Masses gained more legal recognition and stability, some of us sat down and started noticing the differences we had ignored in those years.

        And I would argue that a reform of some sort was needed in 1911 (people have informed me that praying the Divine Office of, say, 1910 can be extremely repetitive), though the reform that was taken can be criticized or praised depending upon one’s perspective.


  1. Papolatry and clericalism: perhaps the two heaviest burdens Western Christianity is suffering? From my point of view, it is enough for me to bother with every silliness my bishop does for also bothering with those committed by the bishop of Rome – no denial of his (correctly understood) primacy intended, you get my point.

    The problem with Peronism, and with other “third-way” movements which flourished in Spanish America during the last century as well, is that most often they were conceived as mere pretences to distract the people while the ideologists get the absolute power and sack their own country.

    Labeling Franco as a “fascist”, as most people do today in our red and perverted Spain, is at least highly inaccurate, mr. Vigilante. Some of their supporters belonged to a party called Falange, which in the beginning had some resemblances with Italian fascism, but the rest of them were Carlists, more or less liberal Monarchists, and just Catholich folks; the general himself was in many ways a rather apolitical man.


    • Fair enough. I actually don’t have a problem with fascism per se as there doesn’t seem to be anything inherently evil about the concept. I am aware that the Francoist government had a broad base of support (from the Monarchists to the Carlists to the actual fascists to the normal Catholics who didn’t want their churches burned down). Funny thing about Franco is that I remember reading somewhere that when he took over the Nationalist forces on the death of Sanjurjo and Mola, most saw him as a “question mark with a liberal past”.


  2. On Divino afflatu, the worst part of that document is probably not the reversal of the Psalter, but the fact that the pope BANNED the use of the old one, stating that whoever continued to pray the Office using the old Order would no longer fulfill his obligation. I have no words to express what I feel on it…


    • That’s a hard question, actually. Most non-religious books I read for pleasure aren’t necessarily “ones with Catholic themes” specifically (Agatha Christie, Philip K Dick, Brandon Sanderson, Alexandre Dumas…). Off the top of my head, some of my favorites that definitely have Catholic or Catholic-like themes include that old classic Lord of the Rings, the Chronicles of Narnia, Brideshead Revisited, Dostoyevsky, and Solzhenitsyn.

      There’s also the two dystopian masterpieces I always recommend to any who have never read them: 1984 and Brave New World. Animal Farm is excellent. Homage to Catalonia (Orwell’s memoirs of his time fighting in the Spanish Civil War) is fascinating to anyone who knows little of the internal politics of the leftist “Loyalists”. The book gives much insight into both the Leftists and Orwell’s later disillusionment with Socialism (you see where the seeds were planted).

      Also, you can never read too much Alexandre Dumas or Charles Dickens 😉


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